or, why does everyone always go straight to Sansa/Jon or Sansa/Robb when Sansa/Bran is in existence???
This post was inspired by a recent ask that donewithwoodenteeth received. Someone asked if Robb and Sansa had as strong of a relationship as Jon and Arya (her answer was no.) Jon and Arya have the strongest bond out of any of the Stark kids, though admittedly Sansa/Arya is my personal favorite and also very popular around tumblr. I’ve seen Bran/Sansa get some love around here, but definitely not as much as Jon/Sansa or Robb/Sansa, and that confuses me. Let me explain why.
So we all know that Sansa can get some unwarranted hate for her early idealism and ‘southron ambitions’. Yes, she was very idealistic and naive. Yes, she wanted to go south because that’s where she thought her destiny lay waiting. Yes, she put too much faith in the stories that she loved.
Except that those three things applied to Bran, too.
Sansa grated for several other reasons as well in the first novel — I just wanted to point out the parallels because really, Sansa and Bran had a lot in common. Gentle-hearted, idealistic young Starks with a fondness for stories (albeit different types of stories) who harbored dreams of a faraway south:
Bran was going to be knight himself someday, one of the Kingsguard. AGOT
She was a Stark of Winterfell, a noble lady, and someday she would be a queen. AGOT
Just as Sansa didn’t really want to be a queen for the power and only vaguely grasped what such a position truly meant, Bran knew nothing of the harsh realities of knighthood in Westeros. In this they suffered similarly; neither were able to accomplish their initial dream, and Sansa now knows perfectly well that the queens and knights of her world are often nothing like the ones in the stories.
Though Sansa and Bran share mentor parallels, their stories also seem to sharply diverge: Sansa’s becomes even more rooted in the politics of Westeros, the Game, whereas Bran’s ends up firmly entrenched in the Song.
Yet they remain the two Stark kids who are closest to the sky, symbolically if not always literally. Wings, and the lack of them, are incredibly important in both of their story lines, and they both express a desire to fly — perhaps because they’re both being held captive. Sansa is a pretty little songbird stuck in a cage; Bran is a “winged wolf bound to earth with grey stone chains”.
There’s bird imagery everywhere in Sansa’s storyline, from her time spent at the Eyrie to her mentor’s sigil (the mockingbird) to her little cousin Sweetrobin, whose life may currently hang in the balance. And weirdly, while Sansa is called a “little bird” numerous times, Varys of all people is currently looking for her — the man famous for his network of spy children. His “little birds”.
Meanwhile, Bran’s name even means “crow”, and he is learning from Bloodraven: more wings. Feeling trapped in his crippled body, he desires more than anything to fly.
And finally, one last reason that Bran/Sansa is wonderful is the fact that they always seemed to have a caring, loving relationship. Jon hardly thinks of Sansa, nor she of him; and wrt Robb, I don’t think he always prioritized Sansa as highly as he should have. But Bran and Sansa didn’t suffer from these problems; Bran even defends Sansa when Robb speaks harshly of her.
And I’m ending this with a few quotes that I find particularly sweet (and sad):
Sansa drifted to sleep as the moon rose, Arya several hours later, curling up in the grass under Ned’s cloak. All through the dark hours he kept his vigil alone. When dawn broke over the city, the dark red blooms of dragon’s breath surrounded the girls where they lay. "I dreamed of Bran," Sansa had whispered to him. "I saw him smiling."
Tommen was all of eight. He reminded her of her own little brother, Bran. They were of an age. Bran was back at Winterfell, a cripple, yet safe. Sansa would have given anything to be with him.
Back in Winterfell Sansa had told him that the demons of the dark couldn’t touch him if he hid beneath his blanket. He almost did that now, before he remembered that he was a prince, and almost a man grown.
If I give him sons, he may come to love me.She would name them Eddard and Brandon and Rickon…. In Sansa’s dreams, her children looked just like the brothers she had lost.
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I mean, once you start overachieving, people expect things from you. Like what people? You know, the world… Teachers, parents, other kids.
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today we were watching community and my bf (the embodiment of casual viewer) commented on how they write abed, re his mental health. he was talking about how he understood it was a gimmick of the show, but abed’s lack of a link to reality (that he argued had been extended further in the new season) was really really sad. i pointed out that the christmas episode was 3 years ago and that was a full blown psychotic hallucination, but still i see his point. i see it more like, abed understands that he lives in the real world, but he just doesn’t understand the real world very well, and tv/movies/pop culture gives him a bridge to understanding reality. so the result is, yes, abed lives in the world with his friends and understands that, but the reason for it is the link to reality via pop culture. hence the constant pop culture referencing, trying to arrange their lives in a way things would happen on tv etc. because without that link he’d be lost. it’s part of the reason his friendship with troy is so important (yes is, not was. it’s not like they aren’t friends anymore troy’s just on a boat), and part of the reason
he’s never been in a real relationship before he’s so scared of screwing things up with rachel. he’s smart enough to understand that, while HE links everything through pop culture, the rest of the world doesn’t, and not everything translates directly. he can’t directly translate from observation/television his relationship with rachel because it’s unpredictable, and because he knows not everything about relationships on tv is real.
i don’t really have a point i was just thinking about it. what do you guys think? i feel like troy’s involvement could definitely be extended on.
The rape thing seems to really bother you. Why? It has already been established that Jaimie is a monster. He attempted to murder a small child. Rape seems to be in character for someone so horrible despite the fact that it's not in the book. People don't change. Not when they are sociopaths willing to kill children
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Here’s the thing: there’s no such thing as an 100% villain in Game of Thrones, particularly when it comes to POV characters. If you think that there are, then you clearly haven’t read the books. So much of the point of how the Lannister family is represented is to show a group that would traditionally be the villains - and what they do is often wrong, absolutely - and subvert your expectations of them. By giving you the perspective of the villain, you get to know them and their motivations, and you sympathize with them, or love them for the bad things that they do. No one is asking for a redemption arc for Jaime Lannister here (he’s still the man who threw Bran out of that window and, I believe, he always will be), but you can’t say that he’s a full out monster. Morality is not that black and white in Westeros. Just because he was willing to kill Bran doesn’t automatically mean that he is willing to do anything terrible in order to accomplish what he wants, including raping the one women he has ever loved.
And that’s just it - it’s NOT FUCKING IN CHARACTER. It’s not in character for any form of Jaime Lannister. It would be an abomination in the book, and it’s a pretty great example of character assassination in the show as well. Jaime doesn’t adhere to a black and white morality, that much is sure, but there is an understandable motivation behind each of his actions. He commits regicide to save the seven kingdoms from burning; he tries to kill Bran to protect his sister and her position as Queen. Yeah, that last one is selfish, but it makes sense. Now, explain to me, how does it make sense for him to rape Cersei? In every single way, Jaime has proven himself to be one of the only male characters that is firmly against rape. He states more than one that the only woman he has ever loved is Cersei, that he has “more honor” than Ned Stark because she is the only woman he has ever slept with. They say that IN THE SHOW!!!! It is extremely clear that he has never raped a girl before, nor has he even considered it!! Jaime Lannister IN THE SHOW threatened to kill Robert because he raped Cersei. Jaime Lannister IN THE FUCKING SHOW gets his hand cut off because he was mouthing off in order to prevent Brienne from being raped. IN THE SHOW he says that, if he were a woman, he would rather die than be raped. Funnily enough, he also says in the books that if he were a woman, he’d be Cersei. Interesting.
Here’s more book evidence, just in case you still are upholding your dumb opinion:
Jaime’s reaction to Rhaella being raped
The day he burned his mace-and-dagger Hand, Jaime and Jon Darry had stood at guard outside her bedchamber whilst the king took his pleasure. “You’re hurting me,” they had heard Rhaella cry through the oaken door. “You’re hurting me.” In some queer way, that had been worse than Lord Chelsted’s screaming. “We are sworn to protect her as well,” Jaime had finally been driven to say. “We are,” Darry allowed, “but not from him.”
This definitely seems like a dude who’s trying to rape his sister, the one woman he has ever loved, the one women he has always wanted to protect - right?????
Jaime’s reaction to Pia’s rape
Someone had broken her nose and knocked out half her teeth. The girl fell at Jaime’s feet when she saw him, sobbing and clinging to his leg with hysterical strength till Strongboar pulled her off. “No one will hurt you now,” he told her, but that only made her sob the louder.
Remember how he hanged the man that had raped her, even though he screamed the entire time, even though he insisted that he had raped her a thousand times before? Still think that Jaime Lannister is a flat out monster, with no regard for any kind of morality??
What Jaime did to Bran was horrible and selfish, yes. But it was in character. I’m not saying that Jaime Lannister is a saint, nor do I want him to be. But raping his sister is not in character, either in the books or in the show - not if you’re actually paying attention to him and his development. Changing a consensual sex scene into a rape scene (she guided him into her body, please don’t try and say to me that it was rape in the books because it straight up wasn’t) seems to actually be playing into this idea of the redemption arc, which is horrifying to me, as he enacts some sort of vengeance or punishment on Cersei for her “evil” influence on him. That’s fucking terrible. But worse than that, the reason why this rape “seemed to really bother me,” as you put it, goes past that, and goes past even my general aversion to rape (amazing? I don’t want to watch rape?? who would have guessed). This scene is part of a larger pattern in Game of Thrones, created and perpetrated by David Beinoff and D.B. Weiss, in which women are subjected to unnecessary sexual violence in order to create shock value for the “most risque show on TV.” I’m tired of people telling me that I should expect this, because it’s an HBO show, or that I should be complicit with how often this is included. This is just another scene in a long line of scenes - of prostitutes being tortured by Joffrey, of Ros being created as a major character only to die horribly - that does nothing for world building, and does everything for raising ratings. Game of Thrones has to be edgy right? And what better way to be edgy than make a consensual sex scene, which was already pretty fucked up since it’s next to the body of their dead son, into a rape scene?? That’s disgusting. The idea that anyone shouldn’t be upset by this is DISGUSTING. We should all be in an outrage, beating down HBO’s door, because I am done with something that I love being made into something DISGUSTING AND MISOGYNISTIC AND TRIGGERING. I’m done with the excuses, I’m done with people trying to apologize it away, and I’m done with people talking around it. It’s there, it’s a problem, and we have to fucking deal with it - because this isn’t true to the original story, nor is it fair to the current audience.
So yeah, I guess you could say I’m “bothered.” I guess you could say that.
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